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	<description>only 62% evil</description>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2008/01/15/what-have-i-learned-02/comment-page-1/#comment-11785</link>
		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My very first post here after reading your blog for years. A good piece of advise for rookie like me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My very first post here after reading your blog for years. A good piece of advise for rookie like me.</p>
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		<title>By: bongkersz</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2008/01/15/what-have-i-learned-02/comment-page-1/#comment-11771</link>
		<dc:creator>bongkersz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lesson 05: If you can’t beat the devil, join him

this is the best advice. it can be fun. on the other side, haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lesson 05: If you can’t beat the devil, join him</p>
<p>this is the best advice. it can be fun. on the other side, haha!</p>
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		<title>By: Primrose</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2008/01/15/what-have-i-learned-02/comment-page-1/#comment-11770</link>
		<dc:creator>Primrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, that&#039;s exactly what I&#039;m doing now. Joining the devils. Funnily, they seemed tolerable afterall. Hmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, that&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;m doing now. Joining the devils. Funnily, they seemed tolerable afterall. Hmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2008/01/15/what-have-i-learned-02/comment-page-1/#comment-11769</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u still rule, michael! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u still rule, michael! lol</p>
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		<title>By: michaelooi</title>
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		<dc:creator>michaelooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pah - A big work organization is like a mini government. There are bound to be politics and people wanting to carve flesh out of your back for their own gain. It&#039;s always good not to take your work too personal... well, at least that&#039;s my motto now. 

nicevil - No I&#039;m not encouraging anyone to sabotage their co-workers. That&#039;s just wrong. If you can read carefully (#4 - last para), I&#039;m asking you to be better than him to show that he&#039;s weak - and help him if you must. Simple. If that person still doesn&#039;t improve and lags the org, then he&#039;s doing the undermining himself. (digging his own grave)

souplad - No problem dude. There&#039;s no definitive way to get through a work life. Everyone has their own way of doing it. I&#039;m just sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pah &#8211; A big work organization is like a mini government. There are bound to be politics and people wanting to carve flesh out of your back for their own gain. It&#8217;s always good not to take your work too personal&#8230; well, at least that&#8217;s my motto now. </p>
<p>nicevil &#8211; No I&#8217;m not encouraging anyone to sabotage their co-workers. That&#8217;s just wrong. If you can read carefully (#4 &#8211; last para), I&#8217;m asking you to be better than him to show that he&#8217;s weak &#8211; and help him if you must. Simple. If that person still doesn&#8217;t improve and lags the org, then he&#8217;s doing the undermining himself. (digging his own grave)</p>
<p>souplad &#8211; No problem dude. There&#8217;s no definitive way to get through a work life. Everyone has their own way of doing it. I&#8217;m just sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: souplad</title>
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		<dc:creator>souplad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 03:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have learnt my lesson and have a fair share of Mgt BS.  

Personnally i beg to differ on point 5.  No offence to u .... for me it is hard sometimes to convinve oneself to stoop low. 

Ironically, it is equally hard to stand on that moral high grounds...

and perhaps it is just a matter of changing one&#039;s perspective where unacceptable immoral or lack-of-integrity behaviours might suprisingly be relevant acts of &quot;justice&quot; and &quot;wisdom&quot;


they are definitely lessons and experiences that can be accumulated.   whether or not it is relevant or valuable to anyone... well it might not be important anymore some time later.

As for me i have decided to call it a day and seek for a sabbatical retreat. 



good luck to you and yours</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have learnt my lesson and have a fair share of Mgt BS.  </p>
<p>Personnally i beg to differ on point 5.  No offence to u &#8230;. for me it is hard sometimes to convinve oneself to stoop low. </p>
<p>Ironically, it is equally hard to stand on that moral high grounds&#8230;</p>
<p>and perhaps it is just a matter of changing one&#8217;s perspective where unacceptable immoral or lack-of-integrity behaviours might suprisingly be relevant acts of &#8220;justice&#8221; and &#8220;wisdom&#8221;</p>
<p>they are definitely lessons and experiences that can be accumulated.   whether or not it is relevant or valuable to anyone&#8230; well it might not be important anymore some time later.</p>
<p>As for me i have decided to call it a day and seek for a sabbatical retreat. </p>
<p>good luck to you and yours</p>
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		<title>By: Nicevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice......  thanks for sharing your experience ! ;D

But the &quot;unintentionally degrade others&quot; technique seems very mean though............. must we truly eat each other to climb up the food chain ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice&#8230;&#8230;  thanks for sharing your experience ! ;D</p>
<p>But the &#8220;unintentionally degrade others&#8221; technique seems very mean though&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. must we truly eat each other to climb up the food chain ?</p>
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		<title>By: Pah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for lesson 4, what if it&#039;s the boss who whines and back stab? my ex boss is like that. whine to his subordinate. WTF? 

also, my other colleague was backstabbing me cos I do a better job than she does. So this idiot boss tried to penalize me during appraisal by saying &quot; U know, you need to share more with your team to climb up the corporate ladder&quot;.. wtf? ask me to be kepochi? what an idiot he is. 

luckily i left the company. if not, sure i&#039;ll rot there. If i mention the company name, u wont be surprised la cos alot of people know it sucks. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for lesson 4, what if it&#8217;s the boss who whines and back stab? my ex boss is like that. whine to his subordinate. WTF? </p>
<p>also, my other colleague was backstabbing me cos I do a better job than she does. So this idiot boss tried to penalize me during appraisal by saying &#8221; U know, you need to share more with your team to climb up the corporate ladder&#8221;.. wtf? ask me to be kepochi? what an idiot he is. </p>
<p>luckily i left the company. if not, sure i&#8217;ll rot there. If i mention the company name, u wont be surprised la cos alot of people know it sucks. :P</p>
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		<title>By: michaelooi</title>
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		<dc:creator>michaelooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>adrian - It&#039;s not an ULTIMATE guide. It&#039;s just some crude guide. The reality is much harsher than this. 

jason - Sort of. 

hflee - *chuckles* Whatever dude. You can even choose to believe that your boss is an alien, I&#039;m not concerned at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adrian &#8211; It&#8217;s not an ULTIMATE guide. It&#8217;s just some crude guide. The reality is much harsher than this. </p>
<p>jason &#8211; Sort of. </p>
<p>hflee &#8211; *chuckles* Whatever dude. You can even choose to believe that your boss is an alien, I&#8217;m not concerned at all.</p>
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		<title>By: hflee</title>
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		<dc:creator>hflee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got 4 and 5 spot on but I can&#039;t agree with 3. Managers DEPEND on his/her subordinates for his/her own survival. And they know very well that if they can&#039;t help solve problems, the entire group&#039;s performance will suffer. Nevertheless, good advice all around. Your experience in thriving in company X shines in this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got 4 and 5 spot on but I can&#8217;t agree with 3. Managers DEPEND on his/her subordinates for his/her own survival. And they know very well that if they can&#8217;t help solve problems, the entire group&#8217;s performance will suffer. Nevertheless, good advice all around. Your experience in thriving in company X shines in this post.</p>
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