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		<title>By: The Expedited Writer</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/12/17/hindraf/comment-page-1/#comment-11705</link>
		<dc:creator>The Expedited Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only &quot;critical thinking&quot; in the first post of Vino&#039;s are the ABC&#039;s...it&#039;s in correct order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only &#8220;critical thinking&#8221; in the first post of Vino&#8217;s are the ABC&#8217;s&#8230;it&#8217;s in correct order.</p>
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		<title>By: michaelooi</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/12/17/hindraf/comment-page-1/#comment-11704</link>
		<dc:creator>michaelooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vino - such would have been the case if it&#039;s just opinions that you&#039;re giving. But you did not. You hurled insults - and that&#039;s just so unnecessary and out of place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vino &#8211; such would have been the case if it&#8217;s just opinions that you&#8217;re giving. But you did not. You hurled insults &#8211; and that&#8217;s just so unnecessary and out of place.</p>
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		<title>By: Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/12/17/hindraf/comment-page-1/#comment-11703</link>
		<dc:creator>Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offence taken, but as how I respect your opinion, I&#039;m sure you respect mine too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offence taken, but as how I respect your opinion, I&#8217;m sure you respect mine too :)</p>
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		<title>By: michaelooi</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/12/17/hindraf/comment-page-1/#comment-11702</link>
		<dc:creator>michaelooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vino - no offense but, I think it is people like you that often make mistakes when 
a) you think that you&#039;re all that smart when you&#039;ve been &#039;abroad&#039; and it gives you oh-all-the-mighty power to see the truth...
b) you and your docile mindset that gets influenced easily by sweet promises of charming motherfuckers
c) you think you&#039;re right and the rest of the least educated folks aren&#039;t because of your academic background.

Actually, I can tell that you&#039;re not. That&#039;s because from your comment alone, I can tell that you&#039;re someone inexperienced and shallow. 

I hate to tell you this but, I really do not like posers like you - people who think they&#039;re smart because they&#039;ve been to overseas. Bah!

Sorry, I&#039;m just being honest. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vino &#8211; no offense but, I think it is people like you that often make mistakes when<br />
a) you think that you&#8217;re all that smart when you&#8217;ve been &#8216;abroad&#8217; and it gives you oh-all-the-mighty power to see the truth&#8230;<br />
b) you and your docile mindset that gets influenced easily by sweet promises of charming motherfuckers<br />
c) you think you&#8217;re right and the rest of the least educated folks aren&#8217;t because of your academic background.</p>
<p>Actually, I can tell that you&#8217;re not. That&#8217;s because from your comment alone, I can tell that you&#8217;re someone inexperienced and shallow. </p>
<p>I hate to tell you this but, I really do not like posers like you &#8211; people who think they&#8217;re smart because they&#8217;ve been to overseas. Bah!</p>
<p>Sorry, I&#8217;m just being honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Vino</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/12/17/hindraf/comment-page-1/#comment-11701</link>
		<dc:creator>Vino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Studying abroad had thought me many things, among others being critical thinkers. Maybe many of you out there should really go and read up what HINDRAF are fighting for (not quite only listening/reading the main stream media), before commenting.
I have a few remarks (this can be quite racial, but I am only pointing out the obvious):-

1. To the Chinese- if your tokongs are being bulldozed down (statistics:1 tokong every 3 weeks, especially those which have existed for about 1 century), would you sit back and continue being ignorant/critisising like what most of you are doing now?
2. To the Malays- lets not even start to question bumiputera status/privilege that comes along with being an Islam in this country
3. To the Indians- some of you are just plain retarded. You&#039;re blinded by empty promises made by the fucker Vellu/MIC...even after these so called leaders &#039;ate&#039; your MAIKA money, you fellas still go and suck up to them....damn sad!

Year in year out we find so many students getting straight A1&#039;s in SPM/STPM, why aren&#039;t they getting seats in local uni&#039;s? In the end, it is MCA etc etc intervening and saving the day right?

To conclude, I support HINDRAF. I think these guys have succeeded in getting the world&#039;s attention. The leaders are in fact lawyers who have studied in the UK and lived there for 5 years. Developed and first world countries work in complete different ways compared to ours. And only those who have lived overseas (among people with developed mindset) will understand the standards that I am referring to.

Just my two cents,
A proud HINDRAF supporter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Studying abroad had thought me many things, among others being critical thinkers. Maybe many of you out there should really go and read up what HINDRAF are fighting for (not quite only listening/reading the main stream media), before commenting.<br />
I have a few remarks (this can be quite racial, but I am only pointing out the obvious):-</p>
<p>1. To the Chinese- if your tokongs are being bulldozed down (statistics:1 tokong every 3 weeks, especially those which have existed for about 1 century), would you sit back and continue being ignorant/critisising like what most of you are doing now?<br />
2. To the Malays- lets not even start to question bumiputera status/privilege that comes along with being an Islam in this country<br />
3. To the Indians- some of you are just plain retarded. You&#8217;re blinded by empty promises made by the fucker Vellu/MIC&#8230;even after these so called leaders &#8216;ate&#8217; your MAIKA money, you fellas still go and suck up to them&#8230;.damn sad!</p>
<p>Year in year out we find so many students getting straight A1&#8242;s in SPM/STPM, why aren&#8217;t they getting seats in local uni&#8217;s? In the end, it is MCA etc etc intervening and saving the day right?</p>
<p>To conclude, I support HINDRAF. I think these guys have succeeded in getting the world&#8217;s attention. The leaders are in fact lawyers who have studied in the UK and lived there for 5 years. Developed and first world countries work in complete different ways compared to ours. And only those who have lived overseas (among people with developed mindset) will understand the standards that I am referring to.</p>
<p>Just my two cents,<br />
A proud HINDRAF supporter</p>
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		<title>By: chinese</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/12/17/hindraf/comment-page-1/#comment-11699</link>
		<dc:creator>chinese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U can see it around U. There are alot old chineseman who collects cardboard for a living.  They will scan everywhere including the dustbins to dig for cardboards.  But can u find any indians or malays who do that? If poverty hit them, they will just go to welfare or ask TV to feature them and ask for donation already.

I saw another old man, in the chinese newspaper, btw, he catches the cockroaches for a living and 1 cockroach cost RM0.10.  In 1 day he can catch 300 cockroaches and that RM30 is how he pass his days.  Can u malay or indian do that ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U can see it around U. There are alot old chineseman who collects cardboard for a living.  They will scan everywhere including the dustbins to dig for cardboards.  But can u find any indians or malays who do that? If poverty hit them, they will just go to welfare or ask TV to feature them and ask for donation already.</p>
<p>I saw another old man, in the chinese newspaper, btw, he catches the cockroaches for a living and 1 cockroach cost RM0.10.  In 1 day he can catch 300 cockroaches and that RM30 is how he pass his days.  Can u malay or indian do that ?</p>
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		<title>By: WristBandMan</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/12/17/hindraf/comment-page-1/#comment-11698</link>
		<dc:creator>WristBandMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 05:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well... the hindu thing is probably motivated by the many destruction of hindu temples in the recent years... especially the one right before Deepavali 2008.

besides... indians who become muslims automatically become bumiputera by the twisted definition in the constitution...
and therefore have access to special rights of the ketuanan melayu...
Mahathir is also part indian... the zainuddin zam dude is also part indian...
(on the other hand, chinese who convert to muslim still remain non-bumi...
lets not even get started about the real bumiputeras who are actually christians (think sabah-sarawak) and gets marginalised anyway..)

don&#039;t ask me about indian christians etc... i honestly don&#039;t know... it&#039;s probably correct that it is not a well-thought/executed plan..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230; the hindu thing is probably motivated by the many destruction of hindu temples in the recent years&#8230; especially the one right before Deepavali 2008.</p>
<p>besides&#8230; indians who become muslims automatically become bumiputera by the twisted definition in the constitution&#8230;<br />
and therefore have access to special rights of the ketuanan melayu&#8230;<br />
Mahathir is also part indian&#8230; the zainuddin zam dude is also part indian&#8230;<br />
(on the other hand, chinese who convert to muslim still remain non-bumi&#8230;<br />
lets not even get started about the real bumiputeras who are actually christians (think sabah-sarawak) and gets marginalised anyway..)</p>
<p>don&#8217;t ask me about indian christians etc&#8230; i honestly don&#8217;t know&#8230; it&#8217;s probably correct that it is not a well-thought/executed plan..</p>
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		<title>By: michaelooi</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/12/17/hindraf/comment-page-1/#comment-11697</link>
		<dc:creator>michaelooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the expedited writer (lim) - you write very well, friend. I never actually thought about the hindu thing (coz I&#039;m quite apathetic about the whole thing) but now that you&#039;ve mentioned it, yeah. what the hell are they thinking lah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the expedited writer (lim) &#8211; you write very well, friend. I never actually thought about the hindu thing (coz I&#8217;m quite apathetic about the whole thing) but now that you&#8217;ve mentioned it, yeah. what the hell are they thinking lah?</p>
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		<title>By: The Expedited Writer</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/12/17/hindraf/comment-page-1/#comment-11696</link>
		<dc:creator>The Expedited Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the intention of hindraf was a noble one but they failed on execution thoroughly and thus, achieved nothing but short sighted international limelight. Not that the press they got were a good one to begin with. 

I personally find that Hindraf coming out and protesting for Hindus to be segregating amongst its own people. Not all indians are Hindus, for one. You might think I am arguing semantics but fact is, Hindraf should not even be formed because it separates themselves from a main cause -which is a united one from all three races against our current gov.

BERSIH is a rally for ALL Malaysians who feel they are being treated unjustly by the gov - but if Chinese and Indians and Malays start having their own rally and groups, we will only achieve one thing. Division.

 Look at our current government, MIC, MCA, UMNO....having separate divisions based on race hasn&#039;t done jack shit for us for over 50 years. We&#039;re still struggling to achieve the semangat muhibbah and force to accept the Bumi privileges that only benefits the rich fat malay cows in BN and their lapdogs in MIC &amp; MCA.... 

And Hindraf wants to have their own movement for Hindu Indians only? It&#039;s just another movement that lacks forethought. It gives a bad name to all the Indians and most importantly, it gives our current government  the opportunity to mount up on the paranoia against the races. Anyone wth a bit of brain matter will see how this CAN gives the gov. the power to inject the correct amount of racial discontentment and then restoring peace again with conditions, i.e.  permanently implementing the NEP or worse. Why do you think they&#039;re tearing down temples and churches? They&#039;re not digging their own graves there...there is more than meets the eye and Hindraf&#039;s movement is one factor that only catalyzes it further.

We don&#039;t need to give them a reason to create another &quot;May 13&quot;, which is more than just a civil war, it was the start of our racist policies. What we  need is unity, not hindraf or any other racially/religion excluded movement . It needs to be ONE or none at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the intention of hindraf was a noble one but they failed on execution thoroughly and thus, achieved nothing but short sighted international limelight. Not that the press they got were a good one to begin with. </p>
<p>I personally find that Hindraf coming out and protesting for Hindus to be segregating amongst its own people. Not all indians are Hindus, for one. You might think I am arguing semantics but fact is, Hindraf should not even be formed because it separates themselves from a main cause -which is a united one from all three races against our current gov.</p>
<p>BERSIH is a rally for ALL Malaysians who feel they are being treated unjustly by the gov &#8211; but if Chinese and Indians and Malays start having their own rally and groups, we will only achieve one thing. Division.</p>
<p> Look at our current government, MIC, MCA, UMNO&#8230;.having separate divisions based on race hasn&#8217;t done jack shit for us for over 50 years. We&#8217;re still struggling to achieve the semangat muhibbah and force to accept the Bumi privileges that only benefits the rich fat malay cows in BN and their lapdogs in MIC &amp; MCA&#8230;. </p>
<p>And Hindraf wants to have their own movement for Hindu Indians only? It&#8217;s just another movement that lacks forethought. It gives a bad name to all the Indians and most importantly, it gives our current government  the opportunity to mount up on the paranoia against the races. Anyone wth a bit of brain matter will see how this CAN gives the gov. the power to inject the correct amount of racial discontentment and then restoring peace again with conditions, i.e.  permanently implementing the NEP or worse. Why do you think they&#8217;re tearing down temples and churches? They&#8217;re not digging their own graves there&#8230;there is more than meets the eye and Hindraf&#8217;s movement is one factor that only catalyzes it further.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need to give them a reason to create another &#8220;May 13&#8243;, which is more than just a civil war, it was the start of our racist policies. What we  need is unity, not hindraf or any other racially/religion excluded movement . It needs to be ONE or none at all.</p>
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		<title>By: iamyuanwu</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/12/17/hindraf/comment-page-1/#comment-11695</link>
		<dc:creator>iamyuanwu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MorpheusX...
The traffic jam is caused by the police (trying to put the blame on the march). It&#039;s a stupid police con tactic... but hey, it worked like a charm and most of us are stupid enough to swallow it. 
They should&#039;ve just done what Michael Ooi suggested. Michael Ooi for IGP position! (no more mat rempits, no more ah-beng-spoiler cars, no more cirmes)

Jason...
I don&#039;t want to feel like a foreigner in my own country. I still find ways to work around the &#039;ketuanan Melayu&#039; shit. But at the same time, I want to support people that are working to remove this shit.

Working around the problem is the easy way out. It&#039;s a short term (&amp; pragmatic) solution. We need to work on the problem, not just around the problem. If not, we are being selfish for depriving our children&#039;s future by not removing this issue. 

As WristBandMan pointed out, it&#039;s not for the money lah. You seriously don&#039;t believe the British (or anyone for that matter) will pay out 1 million for each Indian Malaysian, do you?

It&#039;s not easy to break out of the poverty cycle when you are really just too damn poor. We Chinese Malaysians are fortunate to have the support of strong business community. This opportunity is lacking among the Indian Malaysians.

As for Ananda Krisnan, he is only one extreme number in the statistics.  That fact will exclude him from the norm. You need to look at the average Indian Malaysian. Lim Goh Tong and Francis Yeoh are damn wealthy individuals, but that doesn&#039;t mean every Chinese Malaysian is rich. Flawed reasoning in the first place (wonder why I even bother arguing, hmmm...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MorpheusX&#8230;<br />
The traffic jam is caused by the police (trying to put the blame on the march). It&#8217;s a stupid police con tactic&#8230; but hey, it worked like a charm and most of us are stupid enough to swallow it.<br />
They should&#8217;ve just done what Michael Ooi suggested. Michael Ooi for IGP position! (no more mat rempits, no more ah-beng-spoiler cars, no more cirmes)</p>
<p>Jason&#8230;<br />
I don&#8217;t want to feel like a foreigner in my own country. I still find ways to work around the &#8216;ketuanan Melayu&#8217; shit. But at the same time, I want to support people that are working to remove this shit.</p>
<p>Working around the problem is the easy way out. It&#8217;s a short term (&amp; pragmatic) solution. We need to work on the problem, not just around the problem. If not, we are being selfish for depriving our children&#8217;s future by not removing this issue. </p>
<p>As WristBandMan pointed out, it&#8217;s not for the money lah. You seriously don&#8217;t believe the British (or anyone for that matter) will pay out 1 million for each Indian Malaysian, do you?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not easy to break out of the poverty cycle when you are really just too damn poor. We Chinese Malaysians are fortunate to have the support of strong business community. This opportunity is lacking among the Indian Malaysians.</p>
<p>As for Ananda Krisnan, he is only one extreme number in the statistics.  That fact will exclude him from the norm. You need to look at the average Indian Malaysian. Lim Goh Tong and Francis Yeoh are damn wealthy individuals, but that doesn&#8217;t mean every Chinese Malaysian is rich. Flawed reasoning in the first place (wonder why I even bother arguing, hmmm&#8230;).</p>
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