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	<title>Comments on: Notebook computer myth #1</title>
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		<title>By: megabigblur</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/07/30/notebook-computer-myth-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11163</link>
		<dc:creator>megabigblur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes sense to stash your notebook battery in the fridge (obviously, wrap it tightly to keep moisture out) if you usually keep your laptop in 1 location and only take it on trips occasionally, like me. But if you&#039;re carrying it around and switching back and forth between plug and battery power every day....why bother removing the batt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes sense to stash your notebook battery in the fridge (obviously, wrap it tightly to keep moisture out) if you usually keep your laptop in 1 location and only take it on trips occasionally, like me. But if you&#8217;re carrying it around and switching back and forth between plug and battery power every day&#8230;.why bother removing the batt?</p>
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		<title>By: iamyuanwu</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/07/30/notebook-computer-myth-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11122</link>
		<dc:creator>iamyuanwu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First hand experience.

I took off my battery after a full charge and just left it on my desk.
6 months later, I just couldn&#039;t charge the battery anymore. The charging lights are on, but when I tried turning on the laptop wihtout the battery, it just won&#039;t start. In fact, it would short-circuit the charger, and turn off my lappie. Scary...

My advice is let the battery run a bit once every one/two weeks (to maybe 80%). Then recharge it. Li-ion batteries need a full-charge all the time to keep them from dying. Using them until it&#039;s empty is not recommended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First hand experience.</p>
<p>I took off my battery after a full charge and just left it on my desk.<br />
6 months later, I just couldn&#8217;t charge the battery anymore. The charging lights are on, but when I tried turning on the laptop wihtout the battery, it just won&#8217;t start. In fact, it would short-circuit the charger, and turn off my lappie. Scary&#8230;</p>
<p>My advice is let the battery run a bit once every one/two weeks (to maybe 80%). Then recharge it. Li-ion batteries need a full-charge all the time to keep them from dying. Using them until it&#8217;s empty is not recommended.</p>
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		<title>By: michaelooi</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/07/30/notebook-computer-myth-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11120</link>
		<dc:creator>michaelooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Side effect aa? Your computer won&#039;t shut off when you have a blackout lor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Side effect aa? Your computer won&#8217;t shut off when you have a blackout lor.</p>
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		<title>By: WirstBandMan</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/07/30/notebook-computer-myth-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11117</link>
		<dc:creator>WirstBandMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 08:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have my computer on all day. and it is plugged in to power supply... so always battery at 100%.

Any side effects to this ah?

last time i thought since i am using it like desktop, take out battery la.. but if suddenly unplugged w/o shutdown, all gone..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my computer on all day. and it is plugged in to power supply&#8230; so always battery at 100%.</p>
<p>Any side effects to this ah?</p>
<p>last time i thought since i am using it like desktop, take out battery la.. but if suddenly unplugged w/o shutdown, all gone..</p>
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		<title>By: michaelooi</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/07/30/notebook-computer-myth-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11108</link>
		<dc:creator>michaelooi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jase - Then the notebook itself must have costed the customer his/her whole lifetime of savings?

d&#039;fish - You wanted somebody&#039;s body part in exchange for a few batteries? You&#039;re sick dude. (should be called a &#039;laptop computer&#039;)

jusoh - Frankly speaking, no idea dude. I got the advice from a few Motorola engineers. But it is widely known that the number was obtained through extensive studies and experiments by both battery cell manufacturers and freelance bodies - it&#039;s the optimal number from the statistics point of view. You can never stray too far from being right with statistics. 

hawk - I don&#039;t know if completely discharging and recharging a Li-ion would actually cause premature degradation but, what I know is that - Li-ion does not have memory effect. That means, it does not REQUIRE the user to discharge the pack before charging it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jase &#8211; Then the notebook itself must have costed the customer his/her whole lifetime of savings?</p>
<p>d&#8217;fish &#8211; You wanted somebody&#8217;s body part in exchange for a few batteries? You&#8217;re sick dude. (should be called a &#8216;laptop computer&#8217;)</p>
<p>jusoh &#8211; Frankly speaking, no idea dude. I got the advice from a few Motorola engineers. But it is widely known that the number was obtained through extensive studies and experiments by both battery cell manufacturers and freelance bodies &#8211; it&#8217;s the optimal number from the statistics point of view. You can never stray too far from being right with statistics. </p>
<p>hawk &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if completely discharging and recharging a Li-ion would actually cause premature degradation but, what I know is that &#8211; Li-ion does not have memory effect. That means, it does not REQUIRE the user to discharge the pack before charging it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/07/30/notebook-computer-myth-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11107</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people don&#039;t realise that lithium-ion batteries (the ones in your phones and laptops) should be recharged often and whenever possible. You are more likely to degrade the Li-ion battery by depleting it, then recharging, depleting it then recharging again. 

You would think people who want to preserve their batteries would actually so some battery research beforehand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people don&#8217;t realise that lithium-ion batteries (the ones in your phones and laptops) should be recharged often and whenever possible. You are more likely to degrade the Li-ion battery by depleting it, then recharging, depleting it then recharging again. </p>
<p>You would think people who want to preserve their batteries would actually so some battery research beforehand.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Tan</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/07/30/notebook-computer-myth-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11106</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh shit.. I forgot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh shit.. I forgot.</p>
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		<title>By: jusoh</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/07/30/notebook-computer-myth-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11104</link>
		<dc:creator>jusoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gee uncle ooi, why must we charge battery up to 50% first haa?  is there any reasons behind this?

i recently bought a new notebook but this thing&#039;s size is damn bulky and of course heavy (yes, this is a cheap notebook).  so i have removed the battery (not going to use it anyway) to reduce the weight and stored it inside &#039;bakul sampah&#039;. 

and before you tembak me kow-kow, i bought a notebook so that i can  use it at my home and office easily.

more information please...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gee uncle ooi, why must we charge battery up to 50% first haa?  is there any reasons behind this?</p>
<p>i recently bought a new notebook but this thing&#8217;s size is damn bulky and of course heavy (yes, this is a cheap notebook).  so i have removed the battery (not going to use it anyway) to reduce the weight and stored it inside &#8216;bakul sampah&#8217;. </p>
<p>and before you tembak me kow-kow, i bought a notebook so that i can  use it at my home and office easily.</p>
<p>more information please&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: d'Fish</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/07/30/notebook-computer-myth-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11103</link>
		<dc:creator>d'Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone pls buy me a new laptop.... pls... i give your free batteries k. and then i give you a wet kiss too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone pls buy me a new laptop&#8230;. pls&#8230; i give your free batteries k. and then i give you a wet kiss too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jase Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelooi.net/2007/07/30/notebook-computer-myth-1/comment-page-1/#comment-11100</link>
		<dc:creator>Jase Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about cheap, we got customers who complain that an RM150 9-cell battery is expansive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about cheap, we got customers who complain that an RM150 9-cell battery is expansive!</p>
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