proton savvy
I was loitering around Carrefour during my office lunchtime on Friday… seeking for the meaning of life when I saw something at a corner of the alfresco section of the complex. It was a Proton Savvy - the latest model released by our infamous national carmaker which I have yet to check out. Apparently, there was somekind of promotion/exhibition shit going right there and I can see an asylum of annoying people flocking around that automobile; knocking and copping a feel on it despite the fact that they have absolutely no intention of purchasing it. Bunch of inconsiderate bums.
And because I still have plenty of time left, I decided to walk over to check out the car; knocking and copping a feel on it despite the fact I have absolutely no intention of purchasing it.
What can I say … it’s disappointing. The first thing that dumbfucked me was the engine compartment (or whatever you call that under the hood). I can’t help but noticed that the finishing of the engine cover and the aircon unit next to it, was very dull and crude. It looked like the work of some kindergarten kids with cans of low quality aerosol paints. Well, maybe the rest of the car could be better, I then thought, and so I proceed to move on to the next part of the car - the interior.
At the first glance, the interior reminded me a lot of Proton Saga. Cheap plastics everywhere. But at a closer inspection, I realized that I was wrong. It’s actually much worse than that. The plastics reminded me of those low quality pirated DVD covers that has an awful smell. And that big hole above the glove compartment wasn’t at all impressive. It’s really hard to explain but, it’s unbelievable that this piece of crap was sold for over RM40 grands ! What a rip off !
A little stroll towards the back portion of the vehicle reaped no good impression either.
- The space at the rear passenger seat was like of a plane’s economy class - you’ll pretty much get more frustration than a round of good sex if you ever decided to get adventurous inside this car.
- The trunk was unbelievably small. You can’t even store half of your mother-in-law in it. Well, unless your mother-in-law’s a midget, you’ll probably have to strap her on top of your vehicle roof if there ever was a need for you to discard your MIL’s body after killing her.
Savvy ? An illusion perhaps. To me, this is just another addition to the collection of junks under Proton’s brand. If you were to ask me, I’d say spend that RM40,000 on a used Japanese car. Or a really nice brand new bike.
*I know nothing technical under that hood. This review was made based on my gutfeel as a driver (& owner) of a Japanese car for more than 10 years. Certainly, a little tinge of quality know-hows helped a lot to differentiate what is a junk and what is not.
I’d rather get a Myvi for the price. Perodua build quality is so much better than Proton.
Japanese cars roxx!. Well, M’sia is stil a long way behind Japan can’t expect much.
Which Japanese car do you drive anyways?
coppersnare - Yeah, it’s definitely better than Savvy, although not really good in my opinion. But for that kind of price, I ought to be put to sleep for complaining.
ZerO - I used to drive a manual Honda City. But now, I drive this - http://batmanytb.com/movies/batmanbegins/pics/bb11.jpg
hahah Batmobile. Nice car. :p
Heard from some birds that not much order on Savvy. It seems like people’s trauma on proton’s car is forever there.
sad case for proton…
never grow up…
may god bless proton
its still using SOHC. who the hell uses SOHC nowadays?!
I’ve been reading ur much previous blog lately,
My evaluation:
65% -Surprisingly interesting
25% -Fairly interesting
6% - Ok only interes ..t…n….
4% - …zz….zzz…..zz….z…
You bombard ppl in the most hardcore level, cun!
Savvy…
If you have watched some TV lately there are ad on a HUGE-just-woke-up monster tearing town apart and in the AD the Savvy was SAFE. I think the ad is trying to send a message that Savvy are stronger compared to the previous CAN-version.
Oh and I just got some info from my teacher that there are 2 types of car for PROTON. One is for local buyers and one to export into other countries. The gap of these 2 cars are VERY FAR. If you’re buying any local car, be sure to order the RIGHT ONE.
surfnux - Eh, what is it with the bird bird thing aa ? Frankly speaking, if I wanted to know something, the last thing I’ll ever ask is my own bird. Or someone’s.
zbjernak - God bless Proton ? Why would he want to do that ?
elphine - Even if that junk uses a twin turbocharger, it will still be a major turn off.
mikki - Wah, rate my blog summore aa ? Some people think my blog 100% sux so, this is kinda subjective bebeh. But thanks for the high rating anyway.
ken - Your teacher was right.
I thought u wanted ur silent reader to rate ur explicit blog…
if u guys r fucking rich, then go for better car but if u don’t…
not all malaysian r rich!!!
the price, i think suit with the quality and even cheap for a car with TUV approval..!!
myvi only approve by Peordua ma…
myvi just better designed than savvy but performance, quality and safety i dont think so…!!
their using that fucking old kelisa n kembara engine..!!
their using old tech and systems man..!!
THINK malaysian!!!
yao - What’s the difference with TUV or whatever fuck approval ? The car’s ugly & expensive. Period.
And in case you believed that retarded advertisement, well… don’t. That’s because you’re gonna fucking die anyway hitting a tree or a garbage truck. TUV or not.
air intake macam muncung vacum cleaner…
yelah…for that price better go for Myvi…engine pun engine toyota…
I drive a 12 years old Proto Saga with Magma engine (proudly). I had an accident recently with a relatively new Wira. Guess what, he had a dent the size of king kong’s paw and I get away with a paint on my bumper
If you ask me to buy Proton Saga now, I would ask you to fuck off but I would never trade my old proton even for RM 40k. Who would buy a MYVVI or SAVVY or whatever V for RM 10k let alone RM 40k now???
elphinstone: DOHC is not necessarily better than a SOHC.
savvy car is much beter and your rewieu is fucking bad
apomputeh - Myvi ? Not a fair match. A made-in-china motorcycle perhaps.
m@ri - And you’re the king of the road with that heap ! Hahah !
lion - Hmmppfff… yeah. A “savvy car” is definitely much “beter” and my … excuse me… “rewieu” is fucking bad ? Get some education, moron.
TUV or whatever V i will not buy this piece of junk, i’ve been driving a swedish car for the past ten bloody years although the car would not fetch a good price if i were to sell it now i won’t trade it with either savvy or myvi not even with other japanese cars….
i think theres only 1 word can describe the savvy.. “SUCKS!”
wat tanjung malim, wat jet fighter element, wat 3 times tougher than wira.. all these are ridiculous!
lets say the gen-2 first, the car looks not bad in the design BUT the rear seats SUCKS! i wonder how the tall guys will squeeze themselves into the back seat.
then when proton launches the savvy, everything looks ok at first.. the front, the rims, the dashboard UNTIL i saw its rear.. oh my GOD! tats savvy? to me, it seems to be a very very low standard looking car.. juz look like its only available in poor countries only. the rear really sucks! besides that, theres only 3 colors.. is proton really ‘out of colors’ recently?
i really hope proton can launch a better car in future.. coz even the perodua oso can make a car(myvi) better than the savvy..
the myvi is better than the savvy
for one a few thousand more u get a bigger boot space, an electronic window for rear passengers and you can pretend your car is toyota whenyou open the and close the door. Saw a myvi on the road and it look really stable but you know the kembara engine is the setback.
the savvy, brought my friend from kampung and he notice the bad door was again faulty.
also we notice the myvi armour is thicker compared to the savvy
the AD , l thought the monster but the savvy up in his ass.
i’ve been working with proton dealer before. well. savvy is something that i feel ashmed to sell to my customer. still using the old sohc technology (dohc is far much better than sohc, if not, then why the hell engineers come out with create dohc engine?) and not forget, if anyone wants to fill the savvy radiator, they have to mix a propotion of coolant and distill water!!!, what a fucking mess!!! lousy savvyyyyy!!
fuck u all…….bitchy bitch…..go fuck urself…fucking hell…u all just suck….go fuck ur motherfucker in law!
thesalesman - Thanks for the info pal…
shaiful - Awwwwww… how sad. You must have paid the deposit for a Proton Savvy. Why are you so fucking stupid ? Now you can choose to cancel your car, or live with that fucking piece of disaster for the rest of your miserable life.
l saw so many myvi on the road with almost no sign of savvy. l say the force is strong with myvi whether proton ceo or saleman like it or not.
my storm troopers have placed bookings on the myvi as it has automatic. never like the manual anyway.
off course they tell you they are going to release a so called first of its kind auto + manual renault gear box but bear in mind, they also told us they were going to release a 1.8 gen 2 with airbags abs but then nothing happen
l guess the deal went bad when mitsubishi pulled out of proton as the campro is really a disguise to fool the public when it was actually another mitsubishi engine in disguise
there was a slump in the rate of engine production for gen 2 when mitsubishi pulled out.
what a coincidence when savvy has no campro
the excuse were initially, campro wont fit into savvy as savvy too small. dont make me a fool, isnt it obvious when you design the car and engine they wont fit, then today the new reason, technically incompatible. what the f? can you be more specific, you mean the body cant take the engine’s sheer power or the engine cant handle the savvy “new armour”
trust the force, go for myvi if you want to get your money’s worth
that was insightful, my lord …
first of all, TUV didnt approved SAvvy, as far as i understand, TUV was involved in auditing the components suppliers to potong and to help classification of the component suppliers with Class A,B,C.
anyway, it is true tat not all malaysians can afford even a sub 40k car but i think potong might be promoting savvy with a wrong concept. First, since that ppl are sceptical about the Tiara, then it should not market savvy as a TRM.
just market it as a new car from potong.
Anyway, whether the sales or the quality is good not and how defensive u can be on savvy’s quality, the general public or consumers will decide.
okie, now on some remarks i heard from my friends who went to showroom and themselves owning potongs and still driving them till now. “Teruk” and ‘bad workmanship” are the most common i heard.
i saw one before and i got turned off just by listening to how flimsy the sound of the door when it was closed hard. at 40k ++, it is not going to be better off then waja and g-2 in terms of quality.
personally, i laughed at how ridiculous is the ads in tv and radio. promoting the max speed of 170kph is like encouraging ppl to try it at 170kph.
the tuv is really suspicios salesman ship.
l would only trust my own ears and eyes.
l feel they probably ask tuv to certify the aircon and claim the whole car is certified tuv.
any way, one thing l learn is that even in western country standard as we are always told are not applicable to our malaysian standard, so why trust tuv
and nowadays so many western things are also just as unreliable, l am no longer fooled by white man’s reassurance,
l have seen british man cheating people or aussie lying that they are innocent
l cant trust tuv.
if any one have ever drive a savvy. whay are you so stupid. i have a savvy . the interior of car is very impresive. renault clio is the best selling model in evrope and sohc renault engine is beter than mvyi.
all in this forum are idiots
king of the road - let’s see who’s the idiot.
1) you have a savvy and we think savvy sucks. (idiot = you)
2) you think cheap plastics are good and you don’t even know how to spell impressive to describe your thrill… (idiot = you)
3) You think Savvy rawks because Renault Clio is the best seller in “evrope”. I think you’re an idiot … so … idiot = you.
4) This is not a forum. This is a motherfucking BLOG. Know what’s a blog dumbass ? (idiot = you)
No wonder you bought that garbage Savvy. It suits your character.
For those who have bought Savvy. Good luck to you all.
this is a blog and whatever michael thinks, he has the rights. at least he is not racist.
the plastic quality feels like iswara! at the show room, i found that the foldable back seats are flawed. Heck! is even worst then the iswara. It is funny that the saleman took about 5mins to fold it. Oh and after you have folded it, the front seats have to be an awkward L position.
for michaelooi
i dont have a savvy and i come from evrope-slovenia
i have a proton wira aeroback 1.5 2000 model. the power windov still runing nothing wrong with car
why are you so engry to proton. how many workers will have been in the streets if proton die. proton cars is improwing. they have tuv and iso 9001 standrd. here in slovenia are proton cars very reliable and 7500 cars been sold. the country have two milion population. big demage because proton dont introduce any more. soory because my english are poorly
talking about cars remind me of Gen 2 and Genting incident. i was going up Genting when i saw a Gen 2 at the side of the road. well, smoke came out from the front engine of the car. there were 2 men standing there wearing Proton t-shirts. so i assumed that they were actually testing the power of the car as in whether Gen 2 can go up Genting or not. unfortunately Gen 2 was not able to climb up to Genting n even more unfortunate was that
Gen 2 cars were already launched and released to the publics before that.
what got into the mind of those people at proton?? they launched a car and starting to sell to people when that car can’t even go up Genting safely without bursting the engine??
and what are those QC ppl at proton doing???
p/s: i smiled at those 2 proton t-shirt men and gave them a thumb-up =p
Savvy is a Tiara generation, Tiara tu tak laku kan. Savvy is a generation of tak laku ma.
If i knocked my Savvy I’m sure I’ll get a new one ma. Guranteed what.
i’ve HAD (noted the past tense) a Tiara once and it was a totally nightmare,the greatest SIN ever to buy it.
wat makes PROTON think that this replacement model,the so-called Savvy (my dad refers to it as Sawy,ahaha!) can be successful?what is it to an engine if the body is like tin Milo?
this Sawy thing is juz a waste of good tax payer money on PROTON’s so-called R&D?!
p/s:i dun mind my comments to be made public.ahaha!
Dude, my stooopid uncle just receive his brand-new 2005 black Proton Savvy, and.. OMG!!! the car’s engine so f*ckin’ noisy!! i was shock! as this is brand new car, its the teppet sound tetetete… holy crap! plus the fan sounds like an old Mercedez Benz fan.. why on earth ppl wanna buy this crap? we took a ride from Kepong to Shah Alam via NKVE.. the ride sucks.. its just irritating to hear the loud f*ckin noise under the hood…tetetet all the way..
perodua myvi sales : 40 000 till date , exceeded kancil as best sale
proton savvy, keep emphasizing tuv certified, sure so did some emphasize iso 2000 , any dfference?
sales 3000 , 60 % for automatic
dream on mates, when they release gen 2, they said the premium gen 2 with 1.8 campro will be out later and we are still waiting,
proton savvy supporters , pity yourself, go buy myvi
savvy , a car only proton salesman or ceo would like
savvy , only , a proton salesman pretending to be a foreigner would like,
slovenia, l dare u to show me u got computer access, u are probably a stupid proton salesman who is about to get sacked , ha hahhaahahahhahaha
proton you are hopeless, you even lost to perodua who started later.
what next, increase excise duty to kill perodua, this l must see.
notice how the proton salesman lied
he said he had a savvy
then he go and pretend to be a person from slovenia and he drives a wira
well, l am not stupid
king, your english is like malaysian kampung rude english
It’s just a matter of opinion and tastes that separates people’s preference for cars.
I booked a Savvy and will be waiting for it hopefully by mid or end of August 05. Why i went for the Savvy instead of the Myvi, well i like the exterior design of the car as well as the driver siting position which in my opinion is much more comfortable than Myvi. Overall its a commendable effort from Proton as the fit and finish is very good. I test driven the car before i booked it and i am very please with the NVH and the ride and handling. It’s decent for a sub compact car. People have been saying that the spare parts and consumables is expensive and have long waiting period, but to me that’s just part and parcel of owing a car. Remember a car is a liability and not an asset. The value of the car will depreciate and not go up as would a house.
khim foh - good for you. Like you said, it’s a matter of individual opinion… I don’t see why you’ll need to explain it here if you really think Savvy rocks. Just go ahead and enjoy the ride with your new Savvy …
proton lovers , wake up, you can protect proton
nobody is buying savvy until the they have to come up with this promo RM 350 /month
can u believe it, proton actually considering our pockets being burnt badly by house car loan and petrol and also unable to affect becos so call protection and expensive foriegn car, just for pride
look at thailand, china, making billions because of foreign investment and then now invadin g our market, l wont be surprise when thai come up with their national car and ovwer take proton in 10 years
well proton lovers, your CEO is fired , what can u say now? give him another chance?
your ceo is fired becos his savvy sales are so low that the super factory cant produce any savvy to meet the cost and they have to lower the monthly instalment to a record low 350/month and stll they are squashed by a myvi
today l saw a myvi, modified , black , v nice and it beat my stupid perdana in pick up , can u believe that
b4 tis i m deciding whether go for Mv or Sv..i heard some bout Mv..toyota engine,spacious than SV(indisputable),but the outlook design of car(i can onli rate it 50points)..well jus now i have had a look at the proton showroom,when i first look at it,its design really caught me…so stylish n perfect man!!!the cutting absolutely great if compare to MV,especially the back site..MV ios not really that good in design n curving but SV does(perfetz!!!)..i can rate it to 90points..wif Renault D4F engine..superb economy comsumption of fuel compare to MV,n this really a concern for choosing vehicle as rising fuel prices hike..n the suspension is soooo stable n comfortable…jus that it’s too small compare to da spacious MV(haih…)..stil undecided..but if i choose,i wil not look at the design as priority but the performances n comfprtable of ride should come first..stil undecided..but in my opinion,th eprice for SV is jus too high man!!!that’s jus a small compact economy car n i think those CEO targeted this car for teenagers of first plan to own a car of themselves…dun they think this price really unreasonable?i may think for it if they can lower it,RM40k not worthy for a car like tis….sigh….
vanessa - Strange that you think that car looks perfect. If I were to rate Proton Savvy, I’d give it a negative 10 or 20. Juwara rated at negative 100.
VanessaMemphis, why? VanessaMemphis Why??????
What caught me was the back site, center.
Proton still can’t forget the “Spender”
infront of Waja, now they put it in Savvy.
Oh my…. may be there should design a G string type of Thong type…..
Savvy : Sayur savi (in malay)
(in cantonese CHOI SAM)
u know what it means?? when u left it too long in the frez…RUBBISH!
Ai yo yo….
whooo! WHooo! u all sucks! Im malaysian! even if I dont buy a national car i wont fuck it.. Myvii is just a piece of crap from Japan. They just took out the logo of toyota passo n put perodua logo.. same with daihatsu boon… savvy is not bad at all.. still better than myvii./. the only problem is that savvy using renault engine.. that’s is the major problems.. nothing wrong wit the engine.. problem is only japan car have low cost maintenance.. that means, if u want to sell savvy as used car, dont expect u able to get half of the price even if u were only use it for a year
buy euro car.. much.. much.. much… BETTER! both savvy and myvii just a junK! what so great ’bout myvii? cheap car from toyota group.. toyota passo/daihatsu boon/myvii = same! i repeat “same”.. what ever u call it, i cant say that moving BOX is a car.. he way, even toyota is the best seller car all over the world, boon or passo is just for 3rd world country people who dont afford to buy a ‘CAR’.
let buy a CAR! dont buy a junk!
Potong is repeating one mistake to another.
well, sure enough you should be proud, you did something someone can’t, but do consumer really appreciate it?
Potong Tiara, Potong Arena, Potong Juara, Potong Gen2, and now Potong Savvy. When do they really learn? Potong CEO have to take the responsible, he is a racing people not a marketing person. How many more years Gov have to pamper them? (Of cause we have to consider for the workers. I suppport you to make the National cars but i don’t support the Potong efforts).
Was Interested to change my Potong Waja (which giving me problem. changing parts like playing lego) to Gen 2, think it should be a better car. My interest soon gone when i sit in the back seats. It hit my head, I am not tall 5ft9in, Inmagine matsaleh??? How Potong car can sell at those countries?? Met one of the so call designer of the Gen2 dsign team, he said look, alfa, porch also design in such way. and he seem proud of it,
The savvy teaser ad seem interesting, and eagerly to see how the savvy like, launched and see, same mistake back seat when sited hit my head. Unlike Myvvy, no problem, comfortable and roomy. Agreed Savvy is loooks taugher then Myvy, but Myvy quality is much much better. If not beacuse the Fuckta Potong long gone to be VolksPro.
when they came out with iso 9000 for companies, hospitals and services, l noticed everything was the same
when they mention about tuv,
1) never heard of it here , must be shit, heard of iso 9000, heard of IBM, heard of ferrari but what is tuv?
2) the tuv web site says the proton is still under evaluation for certificate. well u can argue they have not update the site. if that is the case, then they are just as lazy not toupdate their site like proton
3) why not just listen to the customers, fix the problem, train the mechanics properly and stop pretending we are chronic psychos asking for more.
l know the designer of waja and savvy the same moron…you look at waja in front , the V and the square lights. the moron designer just put the front of waja to the back of savvy. did he but the back of waja to the front of savvy?
The reviewer has certainly done a bad job in evaluating the Proton Savvy Car.
Firstly, the reviewer draws on popular connotations about other proton cars.(Quote: “…To me, this is just another addition to the collection of junks under Proton’s brand….”)
Secondly, the reviewer only dwelled on the aesthetic aspects of the car. And in certain cases irrelevant. (Air-con and engine looks dull and crude? Who’s gonna stare at your engine all day?).
Other notes: Trunk too small? Savvy wasn’t engineered to be a pickup truck.
Cheap Plastics? Plastics ARE cheap. That’s why it is widely used everywhere.
Maybe this is just a simple rant and rave review of the Proton Savvy Car. But it is certainly important that you give an objective opinion about what you are reviewing about. If you fail to do so, your opinions are as good as “bullshit”.
anon - well, if you’re expecting some professional review about Savvy, you shouldn’t be reading blogs about it, Einstein.
Savvy the space…..damn so small…..i think proton must drop the savvy price to RM 10000 or TeN Ringgit HHHAhahahahha…….
michaelooi what`s wrong with u haaaaaaa ur always kutuk Savvy Why maaaaaaaaaaa………if u dont like savvy try make ur own car and give da name as ah michael Looi yong tau fuuu @#$! hahahahahhahah………
ur shit & lulululu is the same person. (IP address: 218.111.201.198)
hi moron, you stupid or what ? posting 2 posts to contradict yourself ? Do you even know that your mom’s a woman ?
Blogs are actually a good way of getting reviews about products. This is because the blogs are less bogged down by a sponsor company. So there is no need to butter up :-). While I respect your views on the Proton Savvy, I think you should make your review more presentable and relevant. There is no need to make it look ‘professional’. (The word is overrated anyway, there are pirated VCDs which claim to be professionally mastered)
The best car to own are TOYOTA…. it’s the after service u know… and the system…. toyota cars save fuel… which means $$$$…. compare myvi and savvy… they burn like hell… not even nissan is comparable to toyota… my x-trail now will drink up 100 ringgit worth of petrol in 400KM…. well.. for my old toyota camry… 100 ringgit can bring you at least 700 KM…. imagine that…. i dunno what local cars are made of….. but all i can say is… “EVERY PROTON CAR ARE UNIQUE”…. each has the problem of it own.. some aircond cong la.. some stering sot la… some even… cannot sell.. eheheh…. like savvy….
anon - You did bring up a valid point actually, but you’ve forgotten about an important item - another man’s meat is another’s poison. I may have reviewed it just good enough for me, and you might not like it. Can’t please everyone… can i ? Cheers.
NaughtyJames - I have no qualms about Toyota cars in Malaysia except it’s design and services. The designs are very chintzy (old man) and UMW has serious issues. Everyone knows it. But under that hood, is one hell of an economic engine - no doubt about that.
Honestly, not sure about others but I’ve been enjoying this blog, i’ve got a fucking boring job, and this site just helps. Thx Mike.
Anyway, i couldn’t resist after reading all the comments about proton especially comparing between the myvi and the savvy, but seems to me, proton has been telling versions of stories about the savvy everywhere. Here’s a link of a short interview/review of the proton savvy from the uk. http://www.shocksharp.com/savvy.wmv
Somehow, they claimed in the uk, the savvy would be your (the brits) first “lotus”/”proton”. the quality of the clip suck, but..you’ll get the message.
cheers
you people that drive SOHC cars out there suckksssssssss and ought to get a life!!!!!!!
helo…michaelooi.i wana buy a car but don’t know which one is better if compare KENARI and MYVVI..any suggestion?the price between both only rm5k++..thanks a lots
gavin - go make some appointments with various sales office. do some test drives and consider those that you like most. when you wanna buy a car, you don’t just make your ass static in front of a PC and expect to get a good buy. It pretty much depend on yourself, what’s your preference, bla bla bla.
Just ignore the reviews and drive for yourself. And once you set your target, surf automotive forums to scour for more info about the car’s durability, performance, etc.
We should Support proton.. Taking a savvy would be a good choice.. ur judgement on the car is based on how it looks and how it engine is.. u dont see the potential in the car.. I would myself see how far a Malaysian car can go.. Modification.. and how well they handle Parts which arent meant for the original Parts like the Engine.. aftermarket parts.. a project good for the drivers who are going into the performance arena.. Moding in a slow and steady pace.. U’ll learn more baout the car and u’ll appreciate it
lord sidious
i come from slovenia and i have a proton 415 glsi-1.5 wira. you are a proton basher. if proton come again in slovenia i will buy gen2 or savvy
i know al about proton and problems but the problems
are relly smoll and esaly fixsed
NAJ ŽIVI PROTON
IN SLOVENIJA Z NJIM
KRETEN-MORON
Really didn’t have time to read the whole list of comments that came on, but to the blogger, lets look at a couple of things.
1. Quality of plastics used. Try comparing it with the Vaios, City or the Myvi, there’s quite a bit of difference in quality between those on the Savvy and those used on the other cars. To judge plastics, its more than just looking and feeling, theres quite a science behind it, which you, as a casual observer, is not aware off.
2. Space within the car. It is a COMPACT after all. In terms of space, the MyVi has slightly larger interior, but not significantly so. A Fiat Punto has about the same space, and they’re amongst the roomiest of compact cars in Europe. The rear seat has been the bane of Proton ever since Gen 2, yet not anyone here seems to point out that the the head clearance on the Gen 2 is better than that of the Mazda Lantis. But hey, this is Proton, so its okay to bash them, where else the Lantis is Mazda, obviously everything is right because it is after all Japanese.
3. Quality. The fact that the whole process in designing and building a Savvy is TUV certified does not seem to impress anyone here, which is strange, they impressed most folks here when TUV certified Mercedes and BMWs. Folks, TUV certification are not something you can buy at a Pasar Malam, they are in the veritas business where reputation is everything, and they have a vested interest in keeping it that way. They will not throw that for just one measly contract with Proton.
4. Micheal old chum, have you ever actually drove a Myvi and a Savvy? Really throw the car around, and get it really going? To just say that a Savvy is a crap car by looking at it and knowing that your words could induce millions of people into not buying the car is just plain irresponsible. You have a blog that is read by a wide audience and yet you chose not to offer one piece of objective observation in your evaluation of the Savvy. Considering that you and others have been making a call for enligtenment in Malaysia, you might want to think this one carefully old chum.
bob, you believe in gut feel ? That is, you feel bad about a certain thing even before you use it ? Take for example, those China made water heater which has an outlook that pretty much turns you off like a syphillis cunt with red spots ?
That’s how I felt about Savvy. I don’t even wanna test drive it. It’s my consumer right, and this is a personal blog.
No sweat dude, there are people in this country think that it’s a great car. Well, what can I say ? Good for them ! I’m not a celebrity and nobody needs to follow my direction…
I’m just another guy who is generous enough to share my point of view.
Proton is in a very sorry state. I have the feeling that the situation is parallel to comparing the quality of services you get from government and from private sector.
Proton and Perodua are relatively young auto makers. But just look at the track record of the car models they have released so far. What I know is Perodua have given us a consistently practical models that have stood the test of Malaysian’s car taste. But proton? tiara, juara and now savvy? Somehow their R&D is just not working. Reminds me of our national football team. The politics in proton is just not working. If Malaysia is under communist we all will be forced to buy proton only. It’s not fair. We know the importance of being patriotic but is proton patriotic enough to continue serving lousy cars? The only real solution for proton is to come up with a winner model. Get real feedbacks from the majority of car users in Malaysia and translate them into production. By the smell of it proton’s R&D and final decision on what model to produce are all plagued with personal egos war, office politics, interferences bla, bla, bla……..
Hi Mike,
Agreed, you have been airing your personal opinion and I do respect that. Likewise, I have been airing mine, just to balance the argument a bit. One of the biggest problems with blogs is that they attract like minded individuals who just reinforces each others beliefs, however wrong or right it may be. Sometimes, a different opinion could cause people to stop and think a bit, which is much more healthier don’t you think?
All I can say is that you have your hunch to make your impression, and my impression is from actually driving the thing. I just think that driving the car gives you a better idea of what it could do. Not too long, Fiat came out with the Multipla which drew chagrins and slagging like it was a Posh Spice, but most pundits love it once they drove the car. Goes to show…
Anyway, just wondering Qwerty, what is it that you don’t like about the Savvy? Or the Juara? I actually liked the Juara having seen them in their Townbox incarnation in Japan. The Japanese loved them!! But there you go. I’m asking, not because I work for Proton, but sometimes I also need a reality check.
Automarket is a fiercely competitive market. One of the favourite weapon and frequently employed tactic is to identify certain models with their unique perculiarity. This can work both ways. +ve or -ve.
For Tiara it’s the 3-hole wheel. You lose one nut you’re handicapped.
Juara: A coffin van. Introducing boxy shape when slick aerodynamic is the current trend is not smart.
Arena: It’s not fair for Wira owner to see his car being mutated into pick-up truck.
Savvy: Once you’ve entered a MyVi, Savvy is finished! Not a chance. 5 big guys can comfortably populate MyVi but Savvy? If they intend for Savvy to compete with Kancil and Kelisa they’ve got their calendar all wrong! The marketing for savvy has gone horribly wrong beyond repair. 2 models introduced in the same period and within the same price range? Savvy is a goner. It’s gonna take gigantic amount of promotion for the Savvy to beat MyVi. Their only hope is for MyVi to develop serious design or manufacturing flaws. If people start to mistaken MyVi with Honda Jazz or other more expensive car don’t you think that itself is a compliment? Unfortunately for Savvy nobody will gonna think it’s a Lotus’ relative.
Proton desperately need a good rebranding exercise. Trendy, spacious and powerful should be their priorities for the saviour model.
Savvy is a good car. Test drive it a few times. Feel European. If u want a european feel car and cant afford a peugeot, fiat etc, get a savvy. If you want a Japanese feel and cannot afford to buy a Honda City or Avios etc buy a MYVI… the choice is yours…
If you can afford more than one car, then you can easily say like that. But if you only have budget for one car then your selection will definitely be based on the most logical common sense:
1) Is it within my budget? MyVi(Yes), Savvy(Yes)
2) Is is stylish? MyVi(Yes), Savvy(Yes)
3) Will my friends be comfortable? MyVi(YES), Savvy(NO)
4) Reasonable room to carry stuff? MyVi(Yes), Savvy(NO)
It’s weird to say that Savvy feels like European. Try reading the european reviews of Malaysian cars and maybe you can be enlightened to a little more sense. Buying Savvy just to feel European will not appeal to many low and middle income people. This income range concerns with practicality more than anything else. Sure some people will buy Savvy but it can never outsell MyVi. Savvy will be remembered as just another Proton screw-up and probably the cause of their CEO sacking and the whole AP debacle bla,bla,bla……..excuses after excuses just to cover up the sickness within the institution. Meanwhile Perodua and their MyVi just keep the talk low and let the sales and satisfied customers do all the promotion. Now which one do you think make you more proud as a Malaysian?
I’d rather buy a WIRA than a MYVI. Why? More booth space, cheaper, reliable, stable, bigger rear space (have measured it), more power, cheap to maintain, good looking even after all those years. I have driven european cars before like renault clio, megane, fiat. And have been in Ford Mondeo, escort, fiat panda… so I dare to say SAVVY has that european ride and handling.
Well it doesn’t harm to be in the minority. Wira is a decent car. Wasn’t it the 3rd model from proton after Saga and Iswara? Those were the bygone good ol’ days when proton was still in touch with reality. If you prefer proven old model classic then you’re in safe hand.
Savvy……..mmmmmmmmm…….Let’s just hear more lame arguments to bring the dead horse to life…….Maybe the saying “A lie told repeatedly will soon be taken as the truth” is what left in proton’s marketing arsenal.
I represent the majority… those without internet access (new villages, kampongs, estates) who love protons. Wira is based on the Mitsu Evo 2, thus a good car. Somebody told me that SAVVY was designed by experienced designers from lotus and proton…. some even had design daewoo cars before now labeled cheverolet (not sure of the spelling).
Wow. That’s a great revelation. Now we got a glimpse of proton’s mentality. Nevermind Sir, say whatever you want. What I know is I’m seeing more and more MyVi on the road every day but Savvy is so hard to find except in the showroom. Well at least it will stay new there……….. Cheers!
I OWN A SAVVY AND ITS GREAT. LIVING IN MALAYSIA, BUT DISGRACING, HIMILIATING AND UNDERESTIMATING OUR OWN PRODUCT IS LIKE EATING AND SHITTING AT THE SAME PLACE. I LOVE SAVVY AND I FEEL IT WOULD TURN OUT TO BE AS EXPECTED….. WHOEVER FEELS LIKE COMMENTING ON THAT…. FEEL FREE TO. I AM WAITING…….
Roja - Ok. Savvy sucks. Bite me.
Pretending to be patriotic while brainwashing your own people into buying shit is worse. That’s treason! They ought to be hanged together with the drug dealers & traffickers.
I SEE MORE SAVVY NOW…. A VERY NICE AND SPORTY CAR
OK, SAVVY IS “VERY NICE AND SPORTY CAR” BUT MYVI IS A WHOLE LOT BETTER. SORRY.